Friday, March 28, 2008

Utopia Book 1 Reading Notes


  • A country should not have a reserve of soldiers during a time of peace

  • Stealing is over punished

  • The death penalty is unjust

  • Killing people and controlling their death is divine action

  • People with great wisdom should help and serve the king and the people

  • Thieves should be made slaves for the person that catches them

Personally the perfect society in my mind seems stuffy and full of death. I mean for every crime it seems the death penalty is accepted. I can see that they believe that people will not want to commit a crime if death is the consequence. However, it is just a little too much for one to handle. I do however agree that those with great wisdom should help the king and the people. Many great minds working together is better than one dim mind trying to get everything done. A country should always have soldiers in reserve; you never know when you're going to be attacked. And slavery should never be the answer. It is far too barbaric for this supposed perfect society.

3 comments:

rgroene said...

I agree with your response to whether a country should have a reserve of soldiers. It is far better to be prepared in an unforeseen situation, then to be scrambling at the last second to put everything together (i.e.—the troops, their materials, a game plan). In addition, I agree that people with great wisdom should help and serve the king and the people. Not only does more people contributing their input help spark more ideas, but it also allows for a happier society, knowing that the citizens have a say in their community. As far as for the death penalty is unjust, my view is that not every crime should have death as its punishment. As I also commented on Amy’s, that it is very true that if two distinctly different crimes are punished the same ways, that there will be a higher percentage of more criminal acts, because all are punished the same. Therefore a society is left with more crime, and less citizens. Instead communities should try to teach their citizens how to live a better life after a crime, in hopes to bring them back into the working world at some point. This ties into whether should be made slaves for the person that catches them. I agree that slavery is not the answer. I do think though that the individuals should do public work, such as community service. I stated that I would much rather see them imprisoned for a short period of time, than watch them have to work for their freedom. Chris pointed out to me though that this makes in many ways it is better to place criminals in a situation where they need to work to gain their freedom, so that they become good citizens and learn to work together to help society. Therefore, I guess I am confused on what action should be taken towards these people, but do agree with you that they should never become slaves. Good job on your reflections, I enjoyed reading them!

johnk36 said...

i feel the same about the idea that people wouldnt want to commit a crime is death is the penalty, but i think More said that some people were so poor that they had no choice. so maybe the government should be helpful and do something about it. i agree with you on the fact that a country should have soldiers in reserve. i guess there could always be a terrorist attack and having some soldiers in reserve would make things easier on the country. i also agree with the idea that great minds coming together is better than one dim mind. but why in the first place would that dim mind be in charge? i think something needs to be done about that one.

Paul D said...

I would ahve to say I agree with most of the things that you said. Such as, "people with wisdom need to help and serve the king and the people" but I thought you left out a major part from Utopia that I disagreed with. He also says that they should become somewhat of a "slave to the king" which I don't agree with, like you said slavery is to barbaric. But when people stop being productive citizens and start becoming menaces I would have to say that some form of payment, whether that be monetary or slavery is satisfatory. Last, I also agree that people need to have soldiers at all times.